GOODBYE HOLLY

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  • markinsacmarkinsac Member
    edited December 2013
    One race to go, the crowd brought screwdrivers. They're helping themselves to souvineers. I saw one lucky fan with a big picture of Charlie Whittingtham from Whittingham's pub. It's crazy out here!
  • Wouldnt they get in trouble for that lol, they are going to have an auction lol
  • Standing on the rail for the last race. Huge crowd watching on.

  • Hey, I had the winner of the last race. I got two winning tickets on number 5. Heidi I'm sending you one of them
  • I only bet $10 on race
  • TVG did a nice job today. Todd just gave a touching tribute, but it's clear he was gently chiding the industry for letting this happen to HP.
  • Good!

    I was going crazy hitting that last race. I had two win tickets on number two and five plus an exacta box 2-5. That didn't hit. I was on the apron and it was quite a sight looking up at a packed house who were also standing up and cheering.

    If any of you still talk to Heidi K, have her contact me. I owe her a make up souvineer. I'll send her one of my winning tickets. The other one I'll keep. I'll check the value on eBay, but just having it is something I want to hold onto. The 5 horse only paid $10, so that's not worth cashing in.

    Yes CM, it was a wake up call for the industry. I will try to look for Todd's commentary. When I was interviewed on fox 11's Good Day LA Friday, I tried to explain that betting on horse racing was a game of skill unlike casino gambling. They had me live and they taped a second interview. I'm not sure if they used the second one.

    I managed to only cry a little bit. I gave the grand old lady a hug on the way out and got to the parking lot to try to beat the impending traffic jam.
  • markinsacmarkinsac Member
    edited December 2013
    According to the Daily Racing Form Charts, the official attendance was 13,000.

    WHAT A LIE!

    That crowd was more like 25-30k. At one point, the betting lines were so long, people were getting shut out. And according to the track president, they ran out of programs and concession items.

    But leave it to Bay Meadows Land Company. I guess they didn't want to get stuck with unused hot dog buns.
  • markinsacmarkinsac Member
    edited December 2013
    And Rachel, on the way out of the gates, security was stopping fans with big items in their hands.

    I'm sure on direct orders from BMLC.
  • markinsacmarkinsac Member
    edited December 2013
    Do a web search, "Hollywood Park Fades to Black" by Claire Novak. She uses an eloquent choice of words.
  • According to utssndiego dot com, Hollywood stopped selling admissions at 2pm. Much of the crowd arrived late. Some estimates say there were 30,000 people there. I second that opinion.

    Why is this important?

    ItT'S A MESSAGE TO THE HORSE RACING INDUSTRY: YOU'RE FANS ARE STILL OUT THERE. The 30,000 WHO SHOWED UP TODAY CAME OUT TO GIVE THEIR RESPECTS TO HOLLYWOOD PARK, NOT YOU. YOU HAVE TURNED YOUR BACKS ON US. WE'RE WAITING FOR YOU TO REACH OUT TO US BEFORE WE RETURN.

    TAKING US FOR GRANTED DOESN'T WORK ANY MORE
  • Jack Van Berg said, "I've had enough of California racing."

    "It's pathetic."

    Van Berg will move his horses to Oaklawn Park.

    By 2 pm, the lines to get into Hollywood Park were so long, they stretched into the parking lot. So track officials just let everyone in free at that point. That was a nice gesture.

    For the most part, all the people I talked to were from LA's west side. One guy proudly claimed , "I'm from West LA, this is my track."

    By closing her down, racing just lost a whole slew of fans.

    This may not be the final nail in the coffin, but it was a severe body blow.

    Good night.
  • TVG is doing the documentary of HP again. It was quite entertaining the first time, i shall watch it again
  • The way this article was written was kinda wrong.

    http://www.drf.com/news/jay-hovdey-hollywood-park-goes-out-cheap


  • Todd Schrups farewell to Hollywood Park!
  • I respect you're emotional, so am I, but, sadly only 13,00 fans showed up......I wish your numbers had been accurate with all my heart.
    "" For its last day, though, the track came alive again, with jammed parking lots, lines at the betting windows, and fans and employees swapping stories about the Track of the Lakes and Flowers. Paid attendance exceeded 13,000 -- more than double that of a typical weekend -- and after 2 p.m. the gates were opened to everyone to alleviate congestion, a track spokesman said."""

    It was the largest crowd since 25,837 attended Zenyatta's last race in California on Oct. 2, 2010.

    Hollywood Park closes for good


    Updated: December 22, 2013, 10:51 PM ET

    Associated Press

    INGLEWOOD, Calif. -- Fans crowded into Betfair Hollywood Park for the last time Sunday.

    The track closed for good after the day's 11 races, ending 75 years of racing that featured such thoroughbred stars as Seabiscuit, Triple Crown winners Citation, Seattle Slew and Affirmed, and Zenyatta. The first Breeders' Cup in 1984 was run here. The track will be turned into a residential and retail development starting next year.

    Betfair Hollywood Park

    AP Photo/Jae C. Hong
    People wait in line to enter Hollywood Park in Inglewood, Calif., on Sunday, the final day of horse racing at the track. After 75 years of thoroughbred racing, the 260-acre track is closing for good.

    California Chrome, the 2-1 favorite ridden by Victor Espinoza and trained by Art Sherman, won the final stakes race, the $200,000 King Glorious for 2-year-olds by 6 1/4 lengths.

    Bugler Jay Cohen announced the final post parade of horses with a medley of "Auld Lang Syne" and "Hooray for Hollywood" before they walked onto the track to the Etta James classic "At Last."

    A huge cheer went up as announcer Vic Stauffer told the crowd, "It's post time!" Fans kept up the cheers as the horses ran through the stretch to the finish line. Fittingly, it was a photo finish.

    Woodmans Luck, ridden by Corey Nakatani and trained by Vladimir Cerin, was declared the winner of the turf race worth $50,000.

    Rafael Bejarano rode four winners on the card to wrap up the jockeys' title with 37 winners, while Hall of Famer Bob Baffert was shut out on the final day, but won the training title with 16 winners to John Sadler's 15.

    Dick Van Patten, the 85-year-old actor who starred in TV's "Eight is Enough," was a longtime regular. He walked away a winner, when his horse Tanquerray won the $50,000 third race.

    Amid the sadness was some bitterness as well.

    Jack Van Berg, the 77-year-old Hall of Fame trainer, blamed the cities of Inglewood and Los Angeles and the state of California for the track's closure.

    "I just think it's a pathetic thing," he said near the paddock. "It's ridiculous to let something like this that so many people love and thrive on close. They did everything they could to kill racing."

    Betfair Hollywood Park is the second major California racetrack to close since 2008, when Bay Meadows near San Francisco was shuttered after 74 years to make way for a similar development.

    Van Berg, who has raced in California for 41 years, said he's moving his operations to Oaklawn Park in Arkansas.

    Hollywood Park hosted the first Breeders' Cup in 1984. The track featured such thoroughbred stars as Seabiscuit, Triple Crown winners Citation, Seattle Slew and Affirmed and Zenyatta.

    "I've had enough," he said. "I don't like California racing anymore. I don't like the way they run it and what they do."

    Betfair Hollywood Park is the second major California racetrack to close since 2008, when Bay Meadows near San Francisco was shuttered after 74 years to make way for a similar development.

    Santa Anita, located in Arcadia, will open its winter meet Thursday. Los Alamitos in Orange County will pick up some of Hollywood Park's racing dates, too.

    The track's future had been in question since Churchill Downs sold it to Hollywood Park Land Co. in 2005.

    At the time, the new owner said racing would continue for a minimum of three years while an effort was made to revitalize the sport's business model. But the track had little luck in stemming declines in wagering and attendance, problems that plague the racing industry nationwide. Statewide initiatives to install slot machines at the track also failed.

    Plans call for the track's 260-acre footprint to be turned into 3,000 housing units, including single-family townhomes and condos; 25 acres of parkland, including a 10-acre central park; and a retail and entertainment district, anchored by a movie theatre, office space and a 300-room hotel.

    Hollywood Park opened in 1938 under the direction of movie moguls Jack and Harry Warner. Among the celebrity regulars years ago were Elizabeth Taylor, Jimmy Stewart and Bing Crosby.

    Baffert made his first visit from Arizona in the early 1970s.

    "The thing I remember most was getting up close to the winner's circle and seeing Cary Grant," he said. "That was a thrill."

    The track had been preparing to close for weeks. The gift shop was cleaned out of souvenirs before closing day. Some photos of jockeys on the wall in the betting areas had already disappeared.

    Much of the track's items, including artwork and memorabilia, tractors and restaurant equipment, will be auctioned on Jan. 24-25.

    Two errant flamingoes that escaped capture a few weeks ago sunned themselves on the edge of one of the infield lakes. They will soon be rounded up and taken to a Northern California zoo, where the track's other flamingoes were relocated.

    About 50 cats living in the stable area are in search of new homes before the barn area closes at the end of January. The sprawling grandstand will be torn down and simulcasting will be moved to the adjacent casino.

    The graves of three horses buried in the infield will be relocated. Native Diver, who won the Hollywood Gold Cup from 1965-67, will be moved to Del Mar racetrack near San Diego. Landaluce, the 2-year-old champion filly of 1982, will go to Spendthrift Farm in Kentucky, where she was bred. Great Communicator, the 1988 Breeders' Cup Turf winner, also will be moved.
    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/story/_/id/10183474/betfair-hollywood-park-racetrack-closes-good
  • Oh man, its one thing to lose Sheriffs, totally another to lose Jack Van Berg...
  • Gone like a frieght train, gone like yesterday, gone like a soldier in the civil war bang bang, gone like a 59 cadillac, like all the good things that aint ever coming back...
  • Montgomery Gentry...good tune!
  • carolinarkansascarolinarkansas hot springs, arkansasMember
    but mr van berg is coming to Oaklawn....only ray of light in the whole mess
  • markinsacmarkinsac Member
    edited December 2013
    IT"S HARD TO EXPLAIN . . .
    Her name is Hollywood. But she's not in Hollywood. She's eight miles south in Inglewood. Once apon a time she was racing's leading lady. She was number one. But as time and racing changed, so did her status. Bettors from the suburbs no longer had to make the trek to play the ponies. And she was number one no longer. And like a tired claimer she went from owner to owner. As her star faded, her crosstown rival even made fun of her. In the 1980"s as the declines began, Santa Anita would advertise "The Real Racing Begins On December 26th!" As if Hollywood's fall meet wasn't real. In 1978, Hollywood averaged 35,000 fans a day. In her final days, she hardly drew 4,000. Her grandstand was covered with decades worth of dirt. Her lifeline was a recession. When it was announced she would host her last race three days before Christmas, bloggers rejoiced. "They're finally closing that dump!" They said. But as closing day approached, her denounces became silent. Perhaps it was out of respect, or perhaps they were having a change if heart. If you polled Southern California race fans on their favorite track, it would be close for first between Santa Anita and Del Mar. Hollywood would come in fourth in a three-horse race. It was very hard to estimate how many would show up. Libreau said something like 10,000 would be nicce. I was hoping for 37,000. But I knew I was being too optimistic. On one if the busiest shopping days of the year, I was afraid nobody would show up. LA is a difficult place. It's so spread out and congested that unnessary car trips should be avoided. For the most part, suburban fans went to Santa Anita for live and simulcast. Del Mar belonged to San Diego and Orange County. But gritty Hollywood belonged to LA's working class and rich west side neighborhoods.. The suburbs and the OC hate going to LA. Around 9 am, there was about a thousand early birds there. These were the serious bettors. But on this day, they softened up and talked of the old days. This was a day when they didn't study too hard because there was so much talking and hugging to do. By the time the horses came onto the track for the first race, about 7,000 were in hand. I was disappointed. Libeau was right. But as I looked out onto the parking lot. I noticed cars coming in. As the races progressed, even more cars were coming in. Maybe we'll hit 20,000 I thought. I had a good viewing seat in Whittingham's Pub. Me and my dad talked with a guy who said he knew the Mosses. He said he wasn't too close with them, but they were aquaintences. He told me he was at Churchill Downs the day Zenyatta lost her final race. The Mosses were so sullen, he tried to cheer them up by saying Zenyatta ran her best race ever in defeat. There were well dressed ladies crying. Why were they crying? After all this is just a building in a place nobody wants to go. Memories. Memories of a time when 40,000 showed up every Saturday and Sunday. Memories when hollywood Park and California racing were number one. Memories of a place that was a melting pot. The crowds that came to Hollywood were much different than Santa Anita and Del Mar . Perhaps, in the end, that's what made her so special

    To be continued
  • Rachel, it was a strange day, surreal in many ways including people on the roof taking pictures as the sun set. I wish you were there, I know you would have enjoyed it.
  • I really would have
  • I'm just so sad that Hollypark closed. I spent many happy weekends there hotwalking polo ponies as a teen. I learned so much there. Some good and other stuff not so. Then I moved and grew up. And Zenyatta brought me back to Hollypark after many years absence. In fact I went to LA three times that fall before she retired. It's an 8 hour drive EACH WAY for me.

    No I don't bet money. I love horses for themselves. But there was something magic about going to the track as a kid to hot walk. Oh yes, I was taught to be seen but to not talk to any of the other riders. But an interesting thing happened when I went to sale my horse. The barn manager and I looked at each other and knew each other from polo. I knew he'd take care of my horse cause of the relationship I had with my mentor.

    Well I still have my memories and no one can take those from me. I have my pics from seeing Z that last weekend. And those priceless moments. They mean more to me than money.
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