Pioneerof the Nile

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  • American Pharoah Bob Baffert

    Pioneerof the Nile—Littleprincessemma, by Yankee Gentleman

    I know, what’s he still doing at No. 1 when Dortmund and Carpe Diem looked so good? Well, I’ve come this far with him, why not just wait another week and see what happens in the Rebel and go from there, especially after his jaw-dropping 6f work in 1:10 3/5 that had Baffert hurling out superlatives. Plus, I couldn’t separate Dortmund’s and Carpe Diem’s performances, they both ran such big races. Look, if he runs off the screen in the Rebel, there’s going to be a traffic jam trying to get on his bandwagon, so what’s the rush to drop him now? If his sensational works don’t translate to what he does on Saturday, then no problem putting Dortmund or Carpe Diem as the new No. 1. Both deserve the top spot. But until he proves me wrong I still think he has superstar potential and does everything like a special horse. But until they actually make the transition from 2 to 3, especially rebounding from an injury, there’s always going to be a big fat question mark. We’ll find out one way or the other soon enough.



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  • Guess we will know after the race on Saturday if he is the real deal!
  • American Pharoah is running March 14th in the Rebel Stakes. He will be ridden by Victor Espinoza. He is trained by Bob Baffert and owned by Zayat Stables LLC.
  • American Pharoah blew them all away. Did not have a good start but recovered quickly and just galloped along to the win.
  • KMMKMM Member
    What is his longest winning distance as well as his sire? Sure hope he stays sound. PoN doesn't have reputation for soundness of progeny.
  • caseycasey any racetrack with camera in handMember
    If you watch the replay, he stumbled at the start. Turns out he was running on a sprung shoe the entire race. Total hand ride by Victor, Pharoah's ears pricked the ENTIRE race. He's the real deal. I'm really happy for the Zayats- they have 3 horses on the Derby trail, and 2 of them are serious contenders.
  • American Pharoah Bob Baffert

    Pioneerof the Nile—Littleprincessemma, by Yankee Gentleman

    Forget the SLOW fractions. This was all about visuals, and it was pure poetry. You cannot ask a horse to look any smoother, while generating more power; skipping and bounding over the ground with flawless strides, perfectly erect, legs under him perfectly, ears straight up, whip put away. This was a textbook video of what a Thoroughbred is supposed to look like in action, and he did it after springing a shoe pretty good after bobbling at the start over a wet, heavy track that was getting wetter and heavier as the day went on. A photo shows the shoe a good inch or more separated from the hoof, so he definitely dodged a bullet. Some will downplay the race because of the slow fractions (1:15 1/5), but slow is actually what you want to see from him right now, not some ridiculously fast speed figure. We know he’s fast; it’s all about relaxing and harnessing that speed to go 1 1/4 miles. And remember, although the Razorback, which drew a classy field, was run four-fifths faster, with a much faster three-quarters, that was a stretch-long duel between two talented older horses carrying four pounds less than American Pharoah, and they came home in :32 1/5 compared to :30 2/5 for American Pharoah, who was never really asked to run. The questions now are, how much did he get out of the race, and do we know if he is capable of sitting behind horses? You know Baffert, of all trainers, will make sure he’s dead fit, considering his long works are faster than most horses run in races. And any horse who relaxes on the lead the way he does, flicking those ears back and forth, should be able to settle anywhere. He never pulls and just outruns his horses with that high cruising speed. The ideal scenario now would be to see him tested to some DEGREE IN the Arkansas Derby, but it’s not 100 percent necessary as long as he gets enough out of it to move him forward.



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  • Don't know if the Dosage Index is still a good indicator of who can get the 1-1/4 mile on the first Saturday in May but AF has a Dosage of 4.33. Conventional wisdom is the horse should be 4 or below!
  • I use dosage to find classic and stamina influence as well as center of distribution to help find awd. American pharo might be an illusion though because of the stamina influence of his obscure dam sire. Yankee gentleman should pass it forward as elliptical did for him.
  • La Ville Rouge is booked to Pioneer for a 2016 foal
  • That's quite a compliment for Pioneerof the Nile
    La Ville Rouge is booked to Pioneer for a 2016 foal
  • carolinarkansascarolinarkansas hot springs, arkansasMember
    Since LVR lost her husband...ie. Big D.....she is getting around...lol
  • A woman's gotta live! Lol
  • American Pharoah Bob Baffert

    Pioneerof the Nile—Littleprincessemma, by Yankee Gentleman

    Ever wonder why his tail is so short? Well, he actually had part of it bitten off by another horse while playing in the field. Now his tail is all the other horses see of him and he’s made sure no one gets close to it. But a little company in the Arkansas Derby might be nice just to see how he handles it. Winning Colors, Spend a Buck and War Emblem had success going solo, but it doesn’t happen very often in the Kentucky Derby, and it’s still not the ideal way to win the race, because you never know when you’re going to have unexpected crazy speed in there, like a Palace Malice, Songandaprayer, and Spanish Chestnut. Look, we know he’s classy and cool and exceptionally fast, but it’s always good to have a BACKUP weapon in the Derby in case your main weapon backfires. On another note, do the people who constantly ask Baffert who is better, American Pharoah or Dortmund, really expect an answer other than one he gives every time -- that it’s like asking which of his kids he lik



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  • American Pharoah Bob Baffert

    Pioneerof the Nile—Littleprincessemma, by Yankee Gentleman

    Guess what 3-year-old has the highest Brisnet late pace figures in his last two starts? No, it’s not a late closer as one might expect, it is American Pharoah, whose late pace figs of 109 and 108 indicate that this colt, despite being a frontrunner at this point, does his best running late, by far. The only 3-year-old with a single higher late pace figure is Far From Over (112) I the Withers, but while Pharoah’s early and middle pace figures are basically in the mid 80s, Far From Over’s early and middle pace figs were 66 and 78. so, what we have is a horse WHO is not a speedball, but one who can maintain a high cruising speed on the lead and then come home fast. That bodes well for American Pharoah not being a need-the-lead type. He should be able to adjust to any kind of early pace and still close off it, much like a Barbaro type. Of course, it would be ideal if he could show that in the Arkansas Derby to remove all doubt. He just needs a real speed horse in there to provide a target for him. Let’s just say with all the speed horses and stalkers dominating the Kentucky Derby trail, he better be able to come from off the pace. He did turn in another spectacular work, zipping 5f in :58 3/5, second fastest of 88 works on the tab.



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  • Miss Mandate s running April 5th in the Santa Paula Stakes. She will be ridden by Elvis Trujillo. She is trained by Mark Casse and owned by Gary Barber.
  • American Pharoah Bob Baffert

    Pioneerof the Nile—Littleprincessemma, by Yankee Gentleman

    With all the huge performances this week, does his body of work, running style, and pedigree combined warrant the No. 1 spot? Probably not. But is he freaky good with superstar potential? He very well could be. And that is why he has to remain on top, at least until next week when it’s his turn to show off his talents. With top-class stars like Dortmund, Carpe Diem, and several others breathing down his neck for the top spot, he has to win the Arkansas Derby and do it impressively, otherwise body of work, running style, and pedigree will come into play and possibly expose him as a very fast and talented colt, but not Kentucky Derby material. With that said, he still gives every indication of being something very special and until he proves otherwise, I feel compelled to keep him up on that No. 1 pedestal, despite any factors that might compromise his ability to win on May 2. So far, all the pieces of the 3-year-old puzzle have come together beautifully, and now we have one more important piece to put in place before we get the full picture. Once AGAIN, he turned in a brilliant distance work, going six furlongs in a bullet 1:11 3/5, out 7f in 1:24 4/5, fastest of 25 works on the tab. With fellow Zayat horse, the enigmatic Mr. Z, being considered for the Arkansas Derby, it would give him a much-needed TARGET to run at, but Mr. Z has proven not only to be a fighter, but an erratic stretch runner, so hold your breath if American Pharoah comes up on his outside down the lane.



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  • KMMKMM Member
    My question is where are Z's two sisters by Pioneerofthenile, Harley Rose and Pressurizing? No workouts since 2014 when they were at Fair Hill Training Center.
  • My question is where are Z's two sisters by Pioneerofthenile, Harley Rose and Pressurizing? No workouts since 2014 when they were at Fair Hill Training Center.
    @KMM Z's two sisters are by Henrythenavigator not Pioneerof the Nile.
  • KMMKMM Member
    If that is the case, I am mixing up the sailors.:)
  • American Pharoah is running April 11th in the Arkansas Derby. He will be ridden by Victor Espinoza. He is trained by Bob Baffert and owned by Zayat Stables LLC.
  • Laurie: AMERICAN PHAROAH (Pioneerof the Nile - Littleprincessemma, by Yankee Gentleman) is the speed and CLASS OF the race. He’s had everything his own way in previous starts and with little speed in here other than from Mr. Z, I don’t see that changing. The only thing that can trip him up is a bad break or pressure at this distance. Read his pedigree profile. Contender.
    Ashley: American Pharoah—The only negative I have for American Pharoah right now is that the Zayats misspelled “Pharaoh.” That’s just me being a spelling and grammar Nazi, but in all seriousness, what has American Pharoah done wrong? He won the Rebel just the way he was supposed to, and a similar effort against many of the same foes will see him getting his photo taken post-race again. Contender.
  • American Pharoah Bob Baffert

    Pioneerof the Nile—Littleprincessemma, by Yankee Gentleman

    He had to win the Arkansas Derby and win impressively to keep that superstar aura that has surrounded him since last fall. His well of talent is bottomless and he just keeps reaching new heights of sheer brilliance with every performance. And now we learn that he can rate behind horses, which makes him all the more formidable in a year loaded with talented 3-year-olds. Watching it live, I would have preferred if Espinoza had ridden him out to the wire and not eased him to such a degree, but after further viewing it was apparent that had he not eased him to a gallop, he would have won by 15 lengths in 1:47 and change and that might not have been in his best interests with the Derby coming up in three weeks. What was impressive was his ability to rate kindly, while tracking brisk opening quarters of :22 3/5 and :23 1/5 and still COME HOME his final eighth in :12 2/5, despite being eased to a crawl with his ears straight up. Although his time was three-fifths slower than older horses in the Oaklawn Handicap, that winner was hard-ridden to the wire, and on top of that, American Pharoah was carrying six more pounds. With his 105 Beyer speed figure, he has now run four consecutive triple-digit Beyers. The only question left is how he will stand up to a challenge, as he has never been battle-tested. Who knows what an athlete will do after a series of strolls in the park and then having to slug it out against some tough heavyweights, especially his own stablemate Dortmund, an intimidating and proven street fighter. Then again, he may not need to be battle-tested if he is as scary good as he looked on Saturday.



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  • This looks like one of the best class of 3 year olds we have seen in a long time. Right now it looks as if American Pharoah, Dortmond, Carpe Diem and several others have the makings of champions. And there is always that one lurking in the background who could blow our socks off May 2nd.
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