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We've only had 11 winners of the triple crown. Alydar would of just been the 11th not the 13th. Affirmed was the last triple crown winner we've had. Ill Have Another was trying to become the 12th
What I meant was, if Sham and Alydar ran in another year than Red and Affirmed, there would be 13 winners. Because no one beat these 2 in all the TC races except the TC winners.
I liked Sham too. He ran his heart out and I felt bad for him.
I agree that both Sham and Alydar would probably won TC if born a different yr....possibly Easy Goer also...... But Secretariats best foal has to be his HOTY daughter Lady's Secret....IMO
Sham didn't finish second in all TC races, he finished last in the Belmont. I'm not hating on him, just trying to get the record straight. This thread is titled "The Best Race Horses of All Time." I feel it's a disservice to many of the greats who gave their all and won so many top races to have Sham listed above them.
I agree that both Sham and Alydar would probably won TC if born a different yr....possibly Easy Goer also...... But Secretariats best foal has to be his HOTY daughter Lady's Secret....IMO
if I'll Have Another wasnt scratched in 2012 we could of had another triple crown winner i had a strong feeling that he would of won
I can understand Alydar or Easy Goer being born in the wrong year, but Sham wasn't one of the "Best Racehorses of All Time."
Sham was one of the best racehorses sure he didnt win the triple crown races or what he rates up there with the others i am a huge fan of Sham and Secretariat and it bugs me when people say that he isnt one of the best racehorses when he deserves to be one
Sham isn't close to being one of the best. He was good, but horses like Spectacular Bid, Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Dr. Fager, Sunday Silence, Easy Goer, etc would use him as a salty snack. I admire Sham and I wish he had a chance to prove himself, but he simply never had the chance. It's like saying Barbaro would have beaten Bernardini; we will never know.
Zenyatta Rules, I have no problem with your list EXCEPT ONE: You placed SHAM 7th place of the males. I don't think he belongs there.
I didnt list them in any order i just put down their names. Here is the list where they actually rate in my opinion Males: 1. Secretariat 2. Sham 3. Affirmed 4. Seattle Slew 5. Sunday Silence 6. Alysheba 7. Alydar 8. Man O'War 9. War Admiral 10. Cigar 11. Citation 12. Seabisuit Females: 1. Zenyatta 2. Ruffian 3. Black Caviar 4. Goldikova 5. Pepper's Pride 6. Rachel Alexandra 7. Personal Ensign 8. Azeri 9. Genuine Risk 10. Winning Colors 11. Rags To Riches 12. Lady's Secret
You listed Sham ahead of Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Sunday Silence, Alydar, Alysheba, Man O' War, etc.
Sham isn't close to being one of the best. He was good, but horses like Spectacular Bid, Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Dr. Fager, Sunday Silence, Easy Goer, etc would use him as a salty snack. I admire Sham and I wish he had a chance to prove himself, but he simply never had the chance. It's like saying Barbaro would have beaten Bernardini; we will never know.
It is my opinion i think he is one of the top thoroughbreds of his time its MY OPINION i dont rate him with Spectacular Bid, Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Sunday Silence, Easy Goer, or even Secretariat its my opinion that he was a great racehorse
Zenyatta Rules, I have no problem with your list EXCEPT ONE: You placed SHAM 7th place of the males. I don't think he belongs there.
I didnt list them in any order i just put down their names. Here is the list where they actually rate in my opinion Males: 1. Secretariat 2. Sham 3. Affirmed 4. Seattle Slew 5. Sunday Silence 6. Alysheba 7. Alydar 8. Man O'War 9. War Admiral 10. Cigar 11. Citation 12. Seabisuit Females: 1. Zenyatta 2. Ruffian 3. Black Caviar 4. Goldikova 5. Pepper's Pride 6. Rachel Alexandra 7. Personal Ensign 8. Azeri 9. Genuine Risk 10. Winning Colors 11. Rags To Riches 12. Lady's Secret
You listed Sham ahead of Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Sunday Silence, Alydar, Alysheba, Man O' War, etc.
I DOUBT THAT!
i forgot to change the way i rated them cause one Sham does under Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Sunday Silence, Alydar, Alysheba, and Man O'War i am open to my own opinion im so sorry i should of listed them diferently sorry
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I liked Sham too. He ran his heart out and I felt bad for him.
I will always think Easy Goer was better than Sunday Silence. Easy Goer is also really high on my list of great horses. He could have been legendary.
SS won 3 out of 4 and was a better sire.
Enough said.
I can understand Alydar or Easy Goer being born in the wrong year, but Sham wasn't one of the "Best Racehorses of All Time."
But Secretariats best foal has to be his HOTY daughter Lady's Secret....IMO
Nothing wrong with loving one more than the other, but who was best? I think SS proved that.
What top races did Sham win?
I DOUBT THAT!
Equivocating love for greatness isn't too rational.