Thoroughbreds With Unique Coloring

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  • KetaKeta Member
    BH Race Results 11 Mar 2016 VIDEO
    Painting the Sky (Yankee Gentleman - Lone Star Quest)
    wins an allowance at Delta Downs.
    http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/race/USA/DED/2016/3/11/6/race-6-alw-at-ded-on-3-11-16
  • She runs with her nose up. Maybe she needs o wear one of those breathe right strips.
  • You all have to check out this Bodemeister colt born 6/5. Looks like someone left a bucket of paint in his stall!
    https://twitter.com/DottieMillerPix
  • Absolutely squeezably adorable. Almost like a child's stuffed toy.

    I loved the commenter on the bloodhorse article who suggested the name "Got Milk".
  • I thought I saw one blue eye too, but since not mentioned in the article I guess not. Good luck unique little one, and have a blessed life.
  • KMMKMM Member
    Dipping Doughnuts
  • KMMKMM Member
    Marcel Marceau, the great mime artist in white face.:)
  • His owners will have a blast coming up with names for this baby, that's for sure!
  • Here's an interesting Wikipedia article about this color pattern, splashed white. It doesn't mention it occurring in TBs, but that sure is what it looks like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splashed_white
  • Here's an interesting Wikipedia article about this color pattern, splashed white. It doesn't mention it occurring in TBs, but that sure is what it looks like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splashed_white
    It does, doesn't it?I wonder if they'll have him tested to see exactly what caused his flashy coloring.
  • And more info on splash white occurrence, specifically in thoroughbreds:

    https://wizzley.com/pinto-thoroughbred-race-horses/
  • Very interesting article, jnwisconsin. Thanks for posting.
  • jnwisconsinjnwisconsin Member
    edited June 2016
    You're welcome. I wonder is he does have blue eyes, or at least one blue one anyway. I thought it was interesting that the tip of the tail is often white. Wonder why just the tip.

    Now, there is something that is going to drive me nuts. Somewhere recently, I saw a horse whosevtail had a white tip likt that. It had to be in conjunction with this site, as I only get my racing info from here and I don't belong to any other forums.

    I thought it might have been a race replay, but it could just as easily have been a mare with new foal picture. Or even a stallion
    profiled in Bloodhorse, or another publication. Do you or anyone on the foruum recall seeing or know of a thoroughbred like that?

    Might have been one of the grays, or, oh I just don't know. Wait! I wonder if it could have been Constellation. She has all those white spots. I am going to check. I'll edit my post if I find it. Nope, not Constellation.
  • Paniolo_GalPaniolo_Gal Member
    edited June 2016
    @jnwisconsin...I'm not sure if this was what your were describing...But earlier this year, the photo posting of Mentor Cane (2010-9/12/2013-RIP) showed the so-called Gulastra Plume you might have described above. He was listed as a grey/roan in the pedigree listings. Beautiful horse that left us too soon.

    Rather than rack your brains trying to remember where you had seen the article or picture, etc...this option might help you find things more easily: :oD
    There is a "search" window at the upper portion of the Recent Discussion Page. It is right below the bold black line under ZENYATTA that can help you locate any word(s) or phrases used in previous discussions. But...be sure to put "quote" marks around the word or phrase you are searching for.

    Example: "Mentor Cane" or "Gulastra Plume"

    Results:
    Genetics in Breeding & Pedigree page 24:
    http://www.zenyatta.com/discussions#/discussion/1027/genetics-in-breeding-and-pedigree/p24
    Genetics in Breeding & Pedigree page 19:
    http://www.zenyatta.com/discussions#/discussion/1027/genetics-in-breeding-and-pedigree/p19

    Not sure if this is what you were looking for but I hope the search window can help you in the future.
  • Thanks Paniolo_Gal. The search window will come in handy.

    Poor Mentor Cane! And, you're right, I bet it was him I was thinking of.
  • Paniolo_GalPaniolo_Gal Member
    edited June 2016
    ANOTHER "TAIL" OF A DIFFERENT COLOR...
    There is another retired racehorse which I don't believe had her image posted in the forum named Class Included (2008f).

    image Class Included on 5/2/2013-Photo by Kari Myers via thoroughbredjourney.com

    Class Included raced until 6 earning $635,526
    (29 starts: 13 wins, 7 placed 1 show)
    In 2015, she was bred to Star Guitar.
    Class Included's pedigree: http://www.pedigreequery.com/class+included

    Broad Brush (1983), and Ack Ack (1966) are found in her tail-male line and Ta Wee and Aspidistra (1954) on her tail-female lineage. She has a star-studded gathering of names in her bloodline. Interesting, up to 5 generations back, her ancestry consisted mostly of bay or dkb/br and the only grey in her lineage was the fabulous Grey Flight (1945f) from her damline. Interesting who she got her rare silvery tail from....Perhaps through Grey Flight->the famous "Ms" (Mahmoud (1933 gr), Mah Mahal (1928 gr), Mumtaz Mahal (1921 gr) that leads us to The Tetrarch (1911 gr) further back in her ancestry. I saw The Tetrarch's tail at the Irish National Stud and it looked very much like Class Included's tail coloring without the black lowlights!

    Class Included has a beautiful Gulastra Plume indeed! When she was racing, you could easily spot her among the other racers with her flowing silvery tail!

    image Class Included on 5/2/2013-Photo by Kari Myers via thoroughbredjourney.com

    Here's a good look at her tail!
    image Class Included on 5/2/2013
    Photo by Kari Myers via thoroughbredjourney.com


    Reference:
    http://thoroughbredjourney.com/2013/09/
  • Now I remember where else I saw the Gulastra Plume. It is Cherry Wine. I spotted it during the Belmont post parade.
  • Paniolo_GalPaniolo_Gal Member
    edited June 2016
    Now I remember where else I saw the Gulastra Plume. It is Cherry Wine. I spotted it during the Belmont post parade.
    Phew! Glad you worked out the mystery of which recent racehorse had that white "tipped" ombre coloring on his/her tail. Btw...with further readings, I think the terminology Gulastra Plume applies to non-grey horses. It basically involves a tail that is completely different in color than the rest of the horse's body (whose coat is a solid color)...and different especially to it's mane. The terminolory applies mostly to bays/brown horses...perhaps chestnuts-but don't quote me on that. Rabicanos are categorized differently...I think.

    Perhaps someone more into Coat Color Genetics can answer this better. Is @lauraj_cincinatti available?
  • @lauraj_cincinatti knows a lot more about color than me, but I'm pretty sure greying often starts from the extremities inward - including the tail. There is a red-based Tapit colt at work with a white tail growing in, I'll try and get a pic of him tomorrow. Very cool to look at.
  • Paniolo_GalPaniolo_Gal Member
    edited June 2016
    Yes..Yes @EliRose...While researching I did read the comment that the greys start turning colors on their extremities...just like you described...like the tail. :oD
  • Thanks, Paniolo_Gal. It would have driven me nuts, but I really didn't have good place to start looking. Glad it just fell back into my lap.
  • Thanks, Paniolo_Gal. It would have driven me nuts, but I really didn't have good place to start looking. Glad it just fell back into my lap.
    DeNada jnwisconsin. At least you now have the forum search window. But, I'm like you...if I can't recall where I saw something or can't remember the name...like the name of a person or a song, etc., it will haunt me until my memory files releases the info in my REM sleep cycle or when I'm relaxed like while taking a shower. LOL!

    LOL! Sometimes, under duress, if I can't recall a person's name at a party, I go through my mental rolodex file in alpha order starting with "A"....Aaron, Abel, etc. You know, it often works too! Photo/visuals takes a different file system in the wrinkles of the brain. LOL! My husband takes me on trips because he often can't remember the where, what and when. He relies on my mental video replay of the incident...not that I'm good at it, just better than my hubbie's memory. Funny...but I enjoy hitching a ride on his trips...I just can't stand the tight flight experience that's all. Beam me up Scotty!

    Ooops...Off topic. I'll try to find more examples of unusual Thoroughbred coat colors. :oD
  • If any of you guys have any cool ideas for that white-headed foal by Bodemeister, here's your chance to name him!

    http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/212633/exclusive-contest-name-the-white-headed-foal
  • ehetereehetere Member
    edited June 2016
    The Bodemeister colt looks to be a pretty classic expression of splash white, which may have come from his sire's suspicious looking wonky stripe. The splash white gene often tips tails / lower parts in white as though the horse has been dropped in paint ;) (So not gulastra plume).

    Gulastra plume is indeed very different to grey, usually seen in bay horses and produces a silvery tail. It's theorised to be linked to a sabino gene of some kind. Silver tails in bay horses can also be caused by the wild bay gene. Chestnuts with lighter manes/tails usually involve the flaxen gene (a lot of Giant's Causeway offspring have this).
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