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  • I never said only republicans do nasty stuff; I just don't like the way they've been acting the past seven years. I answered your questions, @tincup. So thanks for the opportunity. Moving on.

    ShockerTrump knows less than zero about US-Iran relations
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/27/us/politics/donald-trump-transcript.html?_r=0
  • Another shocker... so do the rest of us.
  • Some Sanders supporters say it’s ‘Bernie or Bust’ and they will never vote for Hillary Clinton
    Hunter Walker National Correspondent
    March 26, 2016

    Bernie Sanders has dubbed his presidential campaign a “political revolution,” but some of his supporters are rebelling against the very party he is hoping to lead.

    A voluble group of die-hard Sanders backers is vowing online that it’s “Bernie or Bust,” saying they will never support his presidential primary opponent — and, at this point, likely Democratic nominee — Hillary Clinton.

    Nearly two months after voting began in the Democratic primary, Clinton has racked up a lead among pledged party delegates that makes a Sanders victory increasingly implausible. In seeming recognition of this mathematical challenge and the need to begin aiming fire outside the party, Sanders in recent weeks has pivoted away from Clinton and toward Republican frontrunner Donald Trump. Yet at the same time Sanders is making the case that he’s actually more electable in a matchup with Trump, he has also started talking about the circumstances under which he would endorse Clinton. His senior adviser, Tad Devine, has even suggested that Sanders would consider serving as Clinton’s running mate.

    Despite these glimmers of reconciliation with his rival, Sanders may have unleashed a rebellion that will be beyond his power to control when it comes time to unify the party. Some “Bernie or Bust” stalwarts say they won’t back Clinton even if Sanders joins her ticket.

    [snip]

    Russ Belville is an Internet radio host and marijuana legalization advocate based in Portland, Ore. In late February, he wrote a column for the Huffington Post laying out the bones of the “Bernie or Bust” position. In a conversation with Yahoo News earlier this month, Belville said Clinton couldn’t get his vote even by joining forces with Sanders.

    “If Bernie Sanders were to accept a vice presidential bid from Hillary Clinton, it would so disillusion me to the integrity of Bernie Sanders that I don’t know what I would do. I can’t even conceive of him accepting that offer,” Belville said.



    more negative stuff about Hil
    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/some-sanders-supporters-say-its-bernie-or-bust-155205844.html
  • Wow that Times article goes on forever. It's amazing how many words and words and words Trump needs to not say anything that makes any sense. He says the US is no longer a rich country. Huh? Of course it is, the richest in history. Unfortunately most of the money is in the hands of the oligarchy. He also says nuclear weapons are the most dangerous thing facing us, worse than climate change. Huh? Nuclear weapons are indeed dangerous, but they have been around for over 70 years. What a moron. We need Bernie Sanders. He's the only one with a sensible foreign policy. The rest of the world would be more comfortable with his, too.
  • The Times article about the media responsibility for the rise of Trump is nice to see, but a little late. The damage has already been done, thanks to the mainstream media (which is anything but liberal). The progressive media have been pointing this out for months. They've also been pointing out the dirty tricks, and its one of several reasons why I don't support Hillary. But if she's the nominee, I would vote for her because she's better than any Republican. She wouldn't hold the big banks accountable, and she's too far to the right for me, but at least she wouldn't promote policies that hurt women, minorities, homosexuals, etc. But we really need Bernie. He may be an old white guy, but he is really smart and courageous, and very sensible about foreign relations.
  • No one told me I was going to be interviewed by a Muslim: Suu Kyi
    The Indian Express Online Media Private Limited
    March 25, 2016 10:00 PM

    Nobel Peace Prize laureate Aung San Suu Kyi lost her composure and made an anti-Muslim remark about a BBC presenter after she was grilled about Myanmar’s violence-hit Rohingya Muslims. “No one told me I was going to be interviewed by a Muslim,” she was heard muttering after the interview with BBC Today presenter Mishal Husain, according to a new book.

    Suu Kyi, who led her National League for Democracy party to a historic win in Myanmar’s November 8 elections, made the off-air comment about Husain after losing her temper during an interview where Husain asked her to condemn anti-Islamic sentiment, British newspaper The Telegraph reported.

    Pakistani-origin Mishal Husain, 43, is the first Muslim presenter of BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. The comments were revealed in Peter Popham’s new book ‘The Lady And The Generals: Aung San Suu Kyi And Burma’s Struggle For Freedom’.

    During the interview, the 70-year-old global peace icon refused to condemn anti-Islamic violence of Rohingya Muslims despite being repeatedly asked to do so by the BBC Today presenter.



    more
    http://news.yahoo.com/no-one-told-going-interviewed-020000009.html
  • @VA_in_CA, I'm sorry about your kids. I realize I just lucked out with mine and they could have gone a whole different direction. My parents were Republican and I sure didn't go their way. I think in my mother's case, I might have been somewhat like your daughter was because I did enjoy being the opposite of her. We had our issues for sure.
  • Bombshell: Clinton Foundation Donor’s Flight From Justice Aided by Hillary Allies
    Clinton donor smeared a decorated DEA agent and helped crooked Venezuelan friends escape justice
    By Ken Silverstein • 03/25/16 9:30am

    Recent news reports indicate that the FBI is investigating former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for granting favors to her family’s foundation donors and for its systematic accounting fraud. In January, the Sunday Times of London cited former Judge Andrew Napolitano, a conservative libertarian and frequent Fox News guest, as saying that the FBI was taking evidence “seriously” and that Hillary “could hear about that soon from the Department of Justice.”

    It’s hard to believe that the Obama administration and its hideously politicized Justice Department would ever indict Ms. Clinton, given that President Barack Obama picked her for secretary of state and its clear favoritism toward her in the presidential race. But there is massive evidence that shows financial abuses—including money laundering—at the Clinton Foundation and overwhelming evidence that donors were helped by Ms. Clinton.



    lots and lots more
    http://observer.com/2016/03/bombshell-clinton-foundation-donors-flight-from-justice-aided-by-hillary-allies/
  • Another indication that we are overdue for campaign finance reform.
  • I'm not sure that I'd trust anyone labeled a "conservative libertarian and frequent Fox news guest" to say anything even remotely objective about Clinton or Obama. Also, I don't think Obama's Justice Department is "hideously politicized." It's certainly less politicized than GW Bush's JD was.
  • Sanders on Clinton’s Clooney fundraiser: ‘It is obscene’
    Dylan Stableford Senior editor
    March 27, 2016

    Bernie Sanders likes George Clooney. But the Vermont senator says Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton’s use of the actor in a pair of high-priced fundraisers next month is nonetheless “obscene.”

    “It is obscene that Secretary Clinton keeps going to big-money people to fund her campaign,” Sanders said in an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday.

    Clinton is asking donors for $353,400 for two seats at the head table with herself, Clooney and his wife, Amal, at the April 15 event in San Francisco. The next night, the Clooneys will host a $33,400 per person fundraiser for Clinton at the couple’s Los Angeles home.

    “I have a lot of respect for George Clooney. He’s a great actor. I like him,” Sanders said. “But this is the problem with American politics … Big money is dominating our political system. And [my supporters and I] are trying to move as far away from that as we can.”

    Sanders, whose campaign has been largely funded by small donations, says his events usually cost “$15 or $50” to get into.

    “So it’s not a criticism of Clooney,” he said. “It’s a criticism of a corrupt campaign finance system, where big money interests — and it’s not Clooney, it’s the people coming to this event — have undue influence on the political process.”

    Throughout the Democratic primary, the self-described democratic socialist has attacked Clinton’s ties to Wall Street. He did so again Sunday.

    “It’s not only this Clooney event,” Sanders said. “It is the fact she has now raised well over $15 million from Wall Street for her super-PAC, and millions more from the fossil fuel industry, and from the drug companies.”



    more
    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-clooney-hillary-clinton-171452613.html



    If I had $176,700 I'd pay it to sit next to George even if Bernie was there too.
  • And his wife would be there, too. ha ha
  • I have nothing against Bernie's wife.
  • I'm glad to hear it. I meant Clooney's wife, of course.
  • J didn't think she was a US citizen.
  • Well, apparently George and Amal Clooney are hosting together, US citizen or not.
  • whoodlerwhoodler Member
    edited March 2016
    She's Lebanese. Wonder if that will cut down on attendance.

  • I seriously doubt it.
  • Amal is a British citizen who's family left Lebanon when she was a three. She's also an extremely important human rights lawyer.

    No, she won't cut down attendance.
  • whoodlerwhoodler Member
    edited March 2016
    Sanders, Clinton forget their manners
    The two Democratic rivals have stopped congratulating each other on their victories.

    By Annie Karni 03/27/16 04:27 PM EDT




    [snip]

    It didn’t go unnoticed. “I think there is a much meaner culture in the Sanders campaign than people realize,” said Clinton donor Eleni Kounalakis, a former ambassador to Hungary, who said her family was bullied by Sanders supporters while volunteering for Clinton in Nevada.

    “The Berners are very aggressive, and that kind of culture has to be validated to some degree from the top,” she said. “My feeling is he doesn’t address these people at the end of the night because if he sends a message of graciousness to his people, that’s going to take the fire out of the aggressive approach.”



    and it goes on
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernies-graciousness-gap-221252
  • Maybe some of the supporters are a bit pissed off by some of the Clinton tactics. It's still more civilized than the Trump-supporter way of beating up and kicking the opposition supporters, and the candidate himself is not advocating throwing them out.
  • This is the exact place that the many media accounts of violence from the left needs to be inserted. Anyone watching this process is well aware of the disruptive nature of, and speech suppression from, our more liberal friends. It's intellectually dishonest not to see all sides lowering the standard of civil discourse.
    Part of my own disillusion is the effort of the far right, to take control of my party and to define the discourse. It's really a bummer.
    The younger generation of Bern supporters are seemingly the most disruptive...that should be acknowledged.
  • This is the exact place that the many media accounts of violence from the left needs to be inserted. Anyone watching this process is well aware of the disruptive nature of, and speech suppression from, our more liberal friends. It's intellectually dishonest not to see all sides lowering the standard of civil discourse.
    Part of my own disillusion is the effort of the far right, to take control of my party and to define the discourse. It's really a bummer.
    The younger generation of Bern supporters are seemingly the most disruptive...that should be acknowledged.
    I completely agree, @tincup!

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