New Stallions for 2018

jaefeathered

Just thought we should start this thread now that breeding season for 2017 is essentially over. Any new stallions should be breeding for the first time next February.

QueenZFan22

Good idea @jaefeathered I know that Lord Nelson will start the breeding season in 2018 (he missed the 2017 season due to laminitis)

jaefeathered

Yes, and I believe Iliad and Mastery are also likely to be stallions in 2018 (although they haven't been sent to particular stud farms yet).

EDIT: Oh and Dortmund I think.

QueenZFan22

According to the racing post it sounds like Arrogate will retire to stud at the end of the year?

EliRose

Yes, that has always been the plan - since before the BCC.

QueenZFan22

Tapit Brother Retired to Stud at O'Sullivan Farms: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/222033/tapit-brother-retired-to-stud-at-osullivan-farms

QueenZFan22

https://twitter.com/DRFRusso/status/874313625221169154

Note: i will add more new when it becomes available.

jaefeathered

Mastery was very obviously talented, but I do always have some concerns when horses suffer broken bones while racing (along with having a very short career) and then go to the breeding shed. Hopefully it was just a freak accident and not something that could be passed down to any foals...

Keta

https://twitter.com/Forego137/status/840904162162298882

Keta

https://twitter.com/claibornefarm/status/874312912906706944

jen_bloom

jaefeathered said:

Mastery was very obviously talented, but I do always have some concerns when horses suffer broken bones while racing (along with having a very short career) and then go to the breeding shed. Hopefully it was just a freak accident and not something that could be passed down to any foals...

I used to worry about this more, but I know enough people (myself included) who have suffered a freak bone break called a Jones fracture from stepping wrong that unless there's a strong family history or a horse has had more than one such incident, I'm inclined to credit bad luck rather than genes. I think condylar fractures might be the horse equivalent of the Jones fracture.

Non sequitur, but Mastery walking in bell boots reminds me of my dog walking in winter booties. Which is to say, I don't think he likes them much.

RebornRuffian12

True, I was weary of Shanghai Bobby for this reason, but family history of fraility is not in his blood. Unlike horses such as Ruffian, whose sire was rather renown for bone problems.

jaefeathered

Now they're clarifying that Mastery isn't officially retired yet, so he may not stand stud at Claiborne in 2018. It seems like the most likely scenario to me, but they have yet to make an official decision on it.

QueenZFan22

jaefeathered said:

Now they're clarifying that Mastery isn't officially retired yet, so he may not stand stud at Claiborne in 2018. It seems like the most likely scenario to me, but they have yet to make an official decision on it.

https://twitter.com/DRFNevills/status/874329219622424576

QueenZFan22

Future stallion Mastery arrives at Claiborne: http://www.drf.com/news/future-stallion-mastery-arrives-claiborne

Especially_Horses

I am very excited about Mastery. Does anyone have a thought on what they might set his stud fee at?

QueenZFan22

Especially_Horses said:

I am very excited about Mastery. Does anyone have a thought on what they might set his stud fee at?

Going by his race record and pedigree I would say at least $25,000 but who know?

EliRose

Claiborne is usually very reasonable. I would say under $25k. Orb started (and still stands) for $25k. Of Candy Ride's "important" sons at stud, Twirling Candy has been very successful and stands at $20k, and Sindey's Candy is hanging out in Argentina. Clubhouse Ride and Misremebered stand in CA for $2500 each.

jaefeathered

https://twitter.com/DRFBreeding/status/874661561318739968

Well I think that decision was made quicker than we had anticipated haha. Not at all surprising.

I would guess they set his stud fee somewhere between $15-20k.

EDIT: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/222104/mastery-retired-after-claiborne-farm-arrival

Zenyen

I would wager between $10 - $15 as a start. I don't think they'll go under $10K but given that a proven Candy Ride son is at $20 they won't go that high either. At least not till the first foals on are the ground.

Especially_Horses

I'm really keen on this guy. I liked what I saw on the track and I think he would have been a real threat in any of the Triple Crown races this year. At $10K - $15K I wish I had the financial means. Oh well.

QueenZFan22

https://twitter.com/TomRyanKY/status/874684426638307333

Keta

This is posted here on the assumption that Gormley will not race
after 2017 Keta
Spendthrift Farm‏ @spendthriftfarm Jun 10 2017
We will be cheering hard for Gormley, who will be retiring to Spendthrift
on the completion of his racing career to join dad MALIBU MOON!

Especially_Horses

Unlike Mastery, I'm not particularly excited about Gormley as a potential stud.

KMM

I am not either, unless he shows some grit for the rest of his year in racing.

Especially_Horses

Mastery is out of a very nice looking mare and his granddam is very nice too.

Dam: Steady Course



Granddam: Steady Cat