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  • 2 YO Oaks/Derby Points Challenge

    B 25 + 0 = 25
    C 14 + 11 = 25
    Finite/10 & Enforceable/1
    M 26 + 6 = 32
    Motu/4 & Tiz the Law/2
    S 30 + 10 = 40
    Finite/10 & Fighting Seabee
    W 20 + 5 = 25
    She Cant Sing/1 & Finnick the Fierce/4
  • whoodlerwhoodler Member
    edited December 2019
    My picks for next week:
    Cigar
    Go for Wand, both at Aqueduct
    Claiming Crown Jewel. Gulfstream, all on 12/7

    Invitational Cup for Imports, Gulfstream, 12/8
  • NOTE:
    FOUR 2 YO O/D Points races:
    Demoiselle and Remsen at Aqueduct
    Starlet and Los Al Futurity at Los Al
    all on the 7th

    Only one more after this, Springboard on the 15th
  • Los Alamitos Futurity (GII) LRC
    Starlet (GI) LRC
  • They are part of the 2 YO Points Challenge.
  • Hmmm
  • Whoodler, can we can an updated total on our 3 year old picker challenge when you have time if its not to much trouble.
  • Maryland Juvenile Filly Championship Lrl
    Maryland Juvenile Futurity Lrl
  • Best Picker of 2019 3YOs Challenge
    through November.../

    ------------------------- PREPS -/-TC --//-J--J--A--S-O--N--/-D--
    (totals are cumulative )

    B -----------------
    (**Bourbon War (C) ......4...../....../-6/30/19)
    2-Code of Honor (C)-6/30/19......//......................4....8/
    2-Omaha Beach (C)-6/30/19
    *Roadster (C) ............. 8..../......//
    **Signalman (C) ......... 2.../......//... 3/
    **Win Win Win (C) ...... 5.../......//......4/
    *Bellafina (F) .............. 12./....1..//…….2................1./

    Total                          31/32/ -4/ 28+22= 50

    ____________________________________

    C ------------------
    *Bourbon War (C) .......... 4..../......//
    *Code of Honor (C) ........6 .../..3..// .............4...............8./
    **Jersey Agenda (C)............./......//
    *Sueno (C) ...................... 4../.......//
    **Win Win Win(C) ........... 5 ../ ..... //..4../
    2-Guarana (F)-6/12/19 ...........................4 ..................3/
    Total                          19/22// +23=45

    ____________________________________

    J -------------------
    Game Winner (C) .................. 6../......//.....4../
    *Mind Control (C) ................. 7../......//.....2.......4/
    **Somelikeithotbrown (C) ... 5../......//
    **War of Will (C) .................... 4../..4..//.......................2/
    *Midnight Fantasy (F) ............8../.1..//..3...1../
    2-Covfefe (F)-6/22/19 .......................//..2.....4.............4.........6/
    Total                          30/35// + 32=67


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    M ------------------
    (Anothertwistafate .............. 3.../......//-8/22/19)
    **Galilean (C) .......................6.../.....//
    **Hidden Scroll (C) .............1 ../..2..//
    3-Hog Creek Hustle (C)-8/22/19)....//...................3/
    (*Knicks Go (C)........................./..... /-6/15/19)
    2-Maximum Security (C) -6/13/19 ...// 3.....4 ................... 8/
    2-One Bad Boy (C)-7/23/19 ...........................2../
    *Winter Sunset (F) ............. 7.. /..2..//...3 ……..1....4.../
    Total                          17/21/ -3/18//+28=46

    ________________________________________

    S -------------------
    3-Global Campaign (C)-8/18/19
    **Improbable (C) ................. 6 ../...1..// ..........................1/
    **Kingly (C) .......................... 3../.......//.....2../
    *Signalman (C) .................... 2../......//.3..../
    2-Tacitus (C)-6/11/19 ..................................... 3......................4/
    (*Hot N Sour (F)........................./......./-6/11/19)
    (**Positive Spirit (F) ............. 3../......//-8/18/19)
    2-Serengeti Empress (F)-6/13/19..// …………..3/...
    Total                          14/15/ -3/12//+16=28

    ________________________________________

    W -------------------
    **Captain Von Trapp (C) .............../..1..//
    **Everfast (C)................................/...3..//.......1../...
    3-Lieutenant Dan (C)-8/23/19.............//.........../......
    *Philosophy (C) .........................1/......../
    (**Somelikeithotbrown (C) ........7./.....// -8/23/90
    *Enaya Alrabb (F) ......................3./.....//
    2-Guarana (F) -6/13/19 ........................................4 ............3/
    Total                          11/15/ -7/8//+8=16

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  • Thank you, Whoodler. I had been trying to keep up with it, but wasn’t sure my totals were right.

  • Sunday the 8th, Bayakoa Stakes at Los Al.

    Thanks Wh for all the work you put into our challenges -- they are so much fun! :)
  • I think there may be a couple changes for this month, but probably not enough to make a difference. (re Picker Challenge)

    Question: want to do it again in 2020?

    Question 2: want to do it for 2 YOs?
  • #1: Yes, if it's not too much trouble.

    #2: Yes, but I think I'd like to see the 2 yo that we picked this year already in our stables, if that makes sense.
  • Maybe be a little flexible on 2 so I can play, too?
  • K, you are always welcome to play.
    Not sure what you mean by "flexible on 2." We're way more flexible... and reasonable... than the JC! But a 2YO is a 2YO.
  • sarinne said:


    #2: Yes, but I think I'd like to see the 2 yo that we picked this year already in our stables, if that makes sense.

    Perhaps my memory has failed me yet again.
    What 2 YO that we picked this year?
    I seem to have a variety in my vs.
    And, just like with the 3 YO Pickers, you'd be free to choose any of the specified age group that are running in the US/Canada. We might need to adjust the time frame between dropping/adding because 2 YOs kinda come and go more often than 3 YOs.
    For instance, right now Lazy Daisy is out for 60 days for a rest and growing, but DD is now in FL and gearing up for her last juvy race on the 15th.
  • 2 YOs 2020 Oaks/Derby Points Challenge
    December 7th

    Demoiselle (Aqueduct # 8) Post - 3:13 E
    1 Fiftyshays Ofgreen (KY) 2/F L J R Velazquez 118 J C Servis
    2 Maedean (KY) 2/F L L Saez 120 M A Hennig
    3 Glass Ceiling (KY) 2/F L E Cancel 118 D Gargan
    4 Miss Marissa (KY) 2/F L D Davis 118 J T Ryerson
    5 Alandra (KY) 2/F L J Rosario 118 C R McGaughey III
    6 Critical Value (NY) 2/F L I Ortiz, Jr. 120 J C Englehart
    7 Jara (KY) 2/F L J Bravo 118 J C Servis
    8 I Dare U (KY) 2/F L M Franco 118 G Weaver
    9 Blame Debbie (KY) 2/F L J Castellano 118 H G Motion
    10 Daphne Moon (KY) 2/F L J L Ortiz 118 J C Englehart
    11 Water White (KY) 2/F L L R Reyes 118 R R Rodriguez
    12 Lake Avenue (KY) 2/F L J Alvarado 118 W I Mott

    Remsen (Aqueduct # 9) Post - 3:43 E
    1 Chase Tracker (KY) 2/C L J Castellano 118 T A Pletcher
    2 Forza Di Oro (KY) 2/C L J Alvarado 118 W I Mott
    3 Cleon Jones (NY) 2/C L I Ortiz, Jr. 118 J C Englehart
    4 Ajaaweed (KY) 2/C L J Rosario 118 K P McLaughlin
    5 Informative (KY) 2/C L J Bisono 118 U St. Lewis
    6 Shotski (KY) 2/C L L Saez 118 J O'Dwyer
    7 Prince James (KY) 2/C L M Franco 118 K Danner
    8 Alpha Sixty Six (KY) 2/C L J R Velazquez 118 T A Pletcher
    9 Amends (KY) 2/C J L Ortiz 118 C R McGaughey III

    Los Al Futurity (Los Alamitos # 4) Post - 4:58 E
    1 Anneau d'Or (KY) 2/C L J J Hernandez 120 B D Wright
    2 Wrecking Crew (KY) 2/R L A Cedillo 120 P Miller
    3 Thousand Words (FL) 2/C L F Prat 120 B Baffert
    4 High Velocity (KY) 2/C L D Van Dyke 120 B Baffert

    Starlet (Los Alamitos # 7) Post - 6:28 E
    1 Roadrunner's Honor (KY) 2/F L G Franco 120 D F O'Neill
    2 Bast (KY) 2/F L D Van Dyke 120 B Baffert
    3 Donna Veloce (KY) 2/F F Prat 120 S Callaghan
    4 Gingham (KY) 2/F L A Cedillo 120 B Baffert
    5 K P Dreamin (FL) 2/F L R Fuentes 120 J Mullins




    A separate post is required each week for the Challenge races. List both your Oaks and Derby points choices in that post
    ie:
    Chandelier -- My Girl
    American Pharoah -- My Boy
  • Someone PLEASE PLEASE tell me what kind of hold CA has
    over the Jockey Club?
    How can the Remsen with 9 runners be the same grade as the LA Futurity with 4?
    And how is it the Demoiselle, with 12 entries is a Grade 2 while the Starlet with 5 is Grade 1?
    And the damned Oaks/Derby people allot each of them the same number of points?
    It just plain makes no sense.
  • sarinnesarinne Member
    edited December 2019
    whoodler said:

    sarinne said:


    #2: Yes, but I think I'd like to see the 2 yo that we picked this year already in our stables, if that makes sense.

    Perhaps my memory has failed me yet again.
    What 2 YO that we picked this year?
    I seem to have a variety in my vs.
    And, just like with the 3 YO Pickers, you'd be free to choose any of the specified age group that are running in the US/Canada. We might need to adjust the time frame between dropping/adding because 2 YOs kinda come and go more often than 3 YOs.
    For instance, right now Lazy Daisy is out for 60 days for a rest and growing, but DD is now in FL and gearing up for her last juvy race on the 15th.
    I was referring to the ones we pick above, in the Derby/Oaks challenge, kind of roll them over for additional points......but I know that will be shot down so never mind.
  • 2020 Derby/Oaks Challenge

    Demoiselle: Maedean
    Remsen: Amends
    Los Al Futurity: Wrecking Crew
    Starlet: Bast
  • Uh, S, we've (most of us) have picked colts and fillies for the last 8 SETS of 2 YO points races, going back to September.
    No you can't use them all for your 3 YO stable.
    You CAN pick... as usual... 5 at the beginning of the year for your 3 YO stable.
    But if we've learned nothing from the last 2 years of the Picker Challenge... never mind, we don't seem to have learned much from the last 2.
  • Wh, I'm having a hard time expressing what I mean, so don't worry about correcting me. I would very much like to do a 2020 three yo picker series again because it is so fun, and this coming from someone who's done poorly the past two years. But if you don't want to go through the tedium of record keeping, etc, I understand.
  • I wouldn't have asked if I wasn't willing to do it.
    I like the Picker Challenge.
    If anyone has ideas for some rules changes, let's hear them.
    Talking about 3 YOs.

    Now, once more... NEXT YEAR's 2 YOs? Want to do it or not?
  • Regular game
    12/7-8

    Saturday
    1) Go for Wand (Aqueduct # 6) Post 2:09 E
    1 Needs Supervision (KY) 3/F L J L Ortiz 116 J O'Dwyer
    2 Espresso Shot (NY) 3/F L M Franco 114 J R Abreu
    3 Spiced Perfection (CA) 4/F L J Castellano 124 P Miller
    4 Another Broad (MD) 4/F L E Cancel 118 T A Pletcher
    5 Saguaro Row (KY) 4/F L J Rosario 118 M Stidham
    6 Our Super Nova (NY) 4/F L J Alvarado 117 C Baker

    2) MD Juvenille Filly (Laurel # 6) Post - 2:51 E 2 YOs
    1 Naughty Thoughts (MD) 2/F L J Toledo 123 J Maldonado
    2 Lookin Dynamic (MD) 2/F L J Pimentel 123 M J Trombetta
    3 Dancer's Melody (MD) 2/F L C Cedeno 123 T F Ritchey
    4 Lucky Trinity (MD) 2/F L A Cintron 123 C A Gonzalez
    5 Project Whiskey (MD) 2/F L F Pennington 123 R E Reid, Jr.
    6 Miss J McKay (MD) 2/F L T McCarthy 123 C A Lynch
    7 Stickingtogether (MD) 2/F L E Gonzalez 123 M R Matz
    8 Hello Beautiful (MD) 2/F L S Russell 123 B Russell
    9 Hufflepuff (MD) 2/F L H Karamanos 123 D R Dilodovico

    3) MD Juvenile Futurity (Laurel # 7) Post - 3:20 E 2YOs
    1 Tommy Shelby (MD) 2/G L J Pimentel 123 H Walters
    2 Laddie Liam (MD) 2/C L S Russell 123 H I McMahon
    3 Raging Whiskey (MD) 2/C L F Lynch 123 J O'Dwyer
    4 Monday Morning Qb (MD) 2/C L F Pennington 123 R E Reid, Jr.
    5 Sir Back in Black (MD) 2/C L A Castillo 123 R Vega
    6 Mine Not Mine (MD) 2/C L A Cintron 123 C A Gonzalez
    7 Literally (PA) 2/G L I Beato 123 R Madrigal, Sr.
    8 Stone Courageous (MD) 2/G L T McCarthy 123 H A Smith
    9 The Quantico Kid (MD) 2/G L T McCarthy 123 M J Trombetta

    4) Cigar (Aqueduct # 10) Post - 4:16 E
    1 Whitmore (KY) 6/G L J Rosario 120 R Moquett
    2 Bal Harbour (KY) 4/G L J R Velazquez 117 T A Pletcher
    3 Forewarned (OH) 4/C L A Salgado 115 U St. Lewis
    4 Pat On the Back (NY) 5/H L D Davis 118 J C Englehart
    5 Maximum Security (KY) 3/C L L Saez 122 J Servis
    6 Spun to Run (KY) 3/C L I Ortiz, Jr. 120 J C Guerrero
    7 Nicodemus (KY) 4/C L M Franco 117 L Rice
    8 Network Effect (FL) 3/C L J Castellano 115 C C Brown
    9 Looking At Bikinis (KY) 3/C L J L Ortiz 114 C C Brown
    10 Tale of Silence (KY) 5/H L J Alvarado 117 B Tagg
    11 True Timber (KY) 5/H L J Bravo 116 K P McLaughlin

    5) Claiming Crown Jewel (Gulfstreamr # 10) Post -- 4:28 E
    1 Holiday Bonus (KY) 5/G L R Santana, Jr. 120 J Navarro
    2 Third Day (KY) 5/G L J R Leparoux 122 B A Lynch
    3 Forest Fire (PA) 4/G L P Lopez 124 J C Servis
    4 Create Again (KY) 4/G L V Lebron 120 R Creque
    5 Leitone (CHI) 5/H L J Lezcano 124 J Servis
    6 Aequor (KY) 4/C L N Juarez 120 O M Gonzalez
    7 Ekhtibaar (KY) 6/H L K Carmouche 120 J Navarro
    8 Degrom (KY) 5/G L T Gaffalione 122 J T Servis
    9 Noble Thought (KY) 6/G L J A Vargas, Jr. 122 M J Maker

    Sunday
    6) Copa Invitacional del Caribe (Gulfstream # 9) Post -- 3:38 E
    3 up, 1-1/4 miles, weight: 3 YO/118 lbs, older/122 Lbs, fillies/mares allowed 8 lbs.
    1 Kublaigo (KY) 4/C L C A Torres 122 F Gutierrez
    2 Bravo Ignacio (ARG) 5/H L J L Ortiz 122 R Arango
    3 Lagartijo (KY) 3/C L L Contreras 118 R Contreras
    4 Secret Passage (KY) 6/G L I Ortiz, Jr. 122 J D Velez
    5 Pow (KY) 3/C L J R Velazquez 118 B Mafla-Herrera
    6 Little Paul (KY) 6/G L E Ramirez 122 J D Velez
    7 Celandine (KY) 3/C L J C Diaz 118 E Diaz, Jr.
    8 Trincheto (ARG) 5/H L J Castellano 122 G Martucci
    9 California Music (KY) 5/H L L Saez 122 A Paz-Rodriguez
    10 Letruska (KY) 3/F L E Jaramillo 110 F Gutierrez


    7) Bayakoa (Los Al # 8) Post - 6:58 E
    1 Arctic Roll (GB) 4/F L A Espinoza 119 A Lerner
    2 Mongolian Humor (KY) 4/F L J Talamo 119 V Cerin
    3 Mo See Cal (CA) 4/F L D Van Dyke 119 P Miller
    4 Mirth (PA) 4/F L E A Maldonado 124 P D'Amato
    5 Lady Suebee (KY) 4/F L T Baze 119 J W Sadler
    6 Queen Bee to You (CA) 5/M L R Fuentes 119 A Lerner
    7 Zusha (KY) 4/F L T J Pereira 119 G Mandella
    8 Kim K (KY) 3/F L A Cedillo 116 P Miller
  • 3 YO Picker Challenge
    Maximum Security in Cigar (Aqueduct # 10) on 12/7/19
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